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Post by Frank on Jun 3, 2020 10:57:57 GMT
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Post by jugins on Jun 3, 2020 11:08:34 GMT
That's because laws not sorted here ... my add is very good sample to proof that - you can use your metal detector but actually can't use it ... I wish I can send them a letter but my basic english ...
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Post by Frank on Jun 3, 2020 11:21:40 GMT
You would be wasting your time!
Ray (Adverts)
Feb 14, 22:31 GMT
Hi,
We discussed this issue in the office this afternoon and I'm afraid we will not be allowing the sale of metal detectors. I have pasted my manager's reply to another enquiry about metal detectors as it effectively describes our position....
We added metal detectors to our forbidden items list some time ago after serious consideration. I do know that it is somewhat of a grey area with regards to the law in what is classified as an 'archaeological object' but that term was broadened in 2004. Currently the law on selling metal detectors states:
Under the terms of the National Monuments Acts 1930 to 2004 it is illegal to promote, whether by advertising or otherwise, the sale or use of detection devices for the purpose of searching for archaeological objects. The penalty for those found guilty of this offence is a fine of up to €2,500.
That leaves us open to potential prosecution and fines and we can't take that risk. Furthermore, within that wording, it mentions "archaeological objects" which takes me back to my original point above. That was broadened to the following:
The term ‘archaeological object’ is defined in the National Monuments Acts 1930 to 2004 and has a broad meaning in terms of type and age of objects. Commonplace objects of relatively recent date such as coins and militaria, including 20th century material, may fall within the category of ‘archaeological object’. Such objects may come within the terms of the definition regardless of their date and degree of antiquity.
While it isn't mentioned there specifically, that would also apply to say an old penny, shilling or many other coins from the 20th century.
From a purely personal perspective, I can't agree with that law but from the perspective of Adverts.ie and associated companies with our group, we have to, and will comply with that.
I notice we aren't alone in this. Argos Ireland no longer stock metal detectors but their UK counterparts do.
Regards,
Ray
Customer Support Team
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Post by Frank on Jun 3, 2020 11:23:42 GMT
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Post by jugins on Jun 3, 2020 11:28:54 GMT
ADVERTS.IE - YOU ARE THE BEST - CAN'T SELL MY METAL DETECTOR BUT OTHER PEOPLE CAN SELL ANTIQUES HERE ! RESPECT ...  |
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Post by Frank on Jun 3, 2020 11:59:03 GMT
They will remove them if anybody reports them it's the same with donedeal. They know the law is not clear enough I just made a post on facebook about how the nmi and others use the grey area. In this case they don't want to pay to stand their ground to them its why fight somebody else's battle and we all know the government have of buckets of money to waste on crap like this.  |
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Post by jugins on Jun 10, 2020 14:48:38 GMT
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Post by Frank on Jun 10, 2020 15:35:42 GMT
They all give the same reply its now their mantra should ask him about the old penny and the shilling and where it says they come under any heading? Do you think he made that up?  Not sure if I have post this before but there is a big difference between hidden away for safe keeping and lost from your pocket or elsewhere. This is what the judge actually said in one of the cases about chattels and not what the museum are making out. The case was only about stuff purposely hidden away by somebody who intended to retrieve it and not about random lost items. |
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Post by al on Jul 1, 2020 14:39:32 GMT
That's because laws not sorted here ... my add is very good sample to proof that - you can use your metal detector but actually can't use it ... I wish I can send them a letter but my basic english ... There's nothing wrong with your English at all.......stupid laws are the problem. Adverts do not want to take a chance, so more than likely they would do nothing either if you wrote to them, unfortunately. Very frustrating when you have done nothing wrong at all and just want to sell equipment for a hobby for fecks sake and they make you feel like a criminal. |
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Post by jugins on Jul 1, 2020 15:56:07 GMT
Yes very stupid laws - (vicinity- for some people 50mtr but for some people 250mtr is very close) and definition - arheological object ?
And people don't know much about our hobby - last Saturday one women make a pictures and video with me my dothers and my car (no red or blue dots around) she didn't speak with us just (I have your fotos now-thank you) i have her pictures also (🤣maybe this is a love?) and report to gards (just in case)
Since last year I have good idea to clean some public park all together, with donations to charity(there is one near me) but that park under Coillte ...
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Post by jugins on Jul 2, 2020 17:31:52 GMT
Today on adverts.ie ... my Multi Kruzer is more dangerous than this one ? ...   |
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Post by Frank on Jul 2, 2020 23:17:00 GMT
Coillte have said they don't want us detecting on the land they manage that is something we want changed.
If you detect within the law (as you do) then don't worry about people taking the photo.
You did the right thing by taking photos of them if only we all did that it might make the happy snappers think again.
Enjoy your hobby!
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Post by jugins on Aug 18, 2020 10:04:17 GMT
Still for sale!
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Post by Paddyspurs on Aug 22, 2020 22:32:08 GMT
Brilliant set of equipment Jugins. Maybe too many coils for the average user but the price is right. If I hadn't bought the one I have I'd be interested myself. |
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Post by jugins on Dec 3, 2020 8:11:00 GMT
Sold !
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